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When I bought my Astra 400, I was young and dumb. The brass can be used for reloading, not the load data or factory loaded cartridges. 38acp equivilent handloads in my Astra.ĭO NOT under ANY circumstance shoot 9X23 American factory loaded cartridges in ANY of these guns, the pressures developed by this cartridge will wreck any of these guns, they are not built to handle that kind of load, period. I would trust the locked breech Star and Llama guns over the blowback action Astra with. 38 super finish reamer and go-no/go gages the answer is possibly yes, you will have to tinker with spring weights,and may have to open the slide face a bit, but 38 Super work in your Astra/Llama/Star 9mm Largo? 38acp jammed up in his pistol, we fixed this by rechambering the gun with a. I have a friend that has a military 1921 Astra marked "9mm Largo" only on the barrel hood. 38acp will function in the Astra 400, it does in mine. Pistols detined for the commercial market appear to have the chamber dimensions altered enough that. The secret lies in that chamber marking on the barrel hood. 38 acp/.38 Super work in a Largo chambered gun then? Not neccessarily. 38 Super are nothing more than the 9mm Bregmann/9mm Largo redimensioned to American standards from metric standards. 38acp/.38 Super you will note that the ballistics are near identical. 38acp/.38 Super you will note the cartridges are VERY similar to the 9mm Bergmann/ 9mm Largo If you look at the dimensions of the Colt/Browning. Not many if any eh, so this is an idea that won't work. So, how many large lots of Bergmann-Bayard cartridges have you seen being offered lately? This is a similar situation as the Colt/Browning inspired. The 9mm Largo is the hotter Spanish version of the older 9mm Bergmann-Bayard cartridge.Ĭonsequently, 9mm Bergmann-Bayard cartridges will and can chamber and be safely fired in a 9mm Largo chambered gun. These guns and the Star and Llama 1911 look-a-likes were chambered for 9mm Largo cartridge by the Spanish manufacturers. I have heard 9mm Steyer will wok but have never had any of these to try.
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380acp, etc., just scratch that as a plausible idea. 38 Long Colt revolver cartridges, it is BULLSHIT and a dangerous misconception.
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Mine is a commercial version that is stamped 9mm largo/.38 on the barrel hood.ĭo not believe the old tale that these guns will shoot any 9mm cartridge including. I have been cheerfully blazing away with my Astra 400 since 1990. 38 Super & 9x23 Winchester with any of the three earlier mentioned cartridges because of operating pressures.Īny thoughts from hand loaders or antique firearms experts would be appreciated! I’m also very aware NOT to interchange the modern cartridges. I know in general its not good practice to use a different cartridge than specified, but because of the similarity of the cartridge and admittedly thin internet interchangeability discussions, I’m looking for some actual hands on experience of practice. So specifically can 9mm Largo Ammo be fired in a 1912 Steyr-Hahn Pistol (9mm Steyr ammo) or a 1902 Colt Pistol (.38 ACP ammo)? So with the similarity of the era of development for these three cartridges, I would expect a similar operating pressure based off of the propellants available at the time. The 9mm Largo cartridge (Bergmann-Bayard) was developed in 1910. Relatively speaking, there is a lot of inexpensive 9mm Largo Ammo around and almost none of the 9mm Steyr &.38 ACP. The Astra 400 Pistol is marked both 9mm Largo/.38 and there are web sites that say the Astra can take various cartridges (It’s on the internet, it must be true!). If you look at them dimensionally, they are within a few thousands of each other in length & diameters. Any antique firearms experts out there have experience with the interchangeability of these three 9x23 cartridges: 9mm Largo, 9mm Steyr.